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The two questions really don't belong together. Health is an intrinsic part of the New Testament message. Lots of miraculous healings for blind men, lepers, and dead men. Wealth is NOT in the gospels at all. Exactly the opposite.

Wealth was invented by the medieval popes as a way of justifying their own wealth and avarice. They said Jesus was rich just like the popes, who inherited his wealth by apostolic succession. The Inquisition started when some heretics tried to point out that the real Jesus was poor and fiercely anti-wealth.

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Good discussion. Rings true to my experience, and it's sometimes an uncomfortable fact to note that blacks are heavily overrepresented in Prosperity Gospel (but I think as a group it's still majority white), even after adjusting for income. The connection to poverty also rings very true.

I have a very poor and somewhat troubled (white) relative who actually lives very close to your neck of the woods, Ryan. And he was telling me about how he needs to use all his money to buy gold, based on his read of one verse or another of the Bible, and then he'll finally be a rich man. It's at least better than Powerball tickets or sending his money to a televangelist, so I wasn't sure how much I should try to dissuade him.

One thing that marks Osteen is that he himself is rich and uses his wealth to engage in conspicuous consumption. You can likely judge someone's attachment to the Prosperity Gospel largely by how he feels about that fact. To a full-throated Prosperity Gospeler, the normative reaction is something like, "That could be me!"

Of course, some people go the other way and say a pastor should be poor. I am fine with my pastor -- who has 8 kids and pastors to a middle-class audience -- being middle-class. We pay him enough to provide for that family at a mid-middle-class lifestyle. But I would have a big problem with him being wealthy and using his wealth as Osteen uses his.

The Douthat quote is a good one. There's something universal about the human drive to pray to God or the gods or the spirits for wealth and prosperity. So it has a tendency to show up in every religious tradition, including Douthat's own Roman Catholicism, but most often at a poorer and less educated/catechized "folk" level.

If the Reformed tradition is better about this, as Ryan points out, it's that, for one, to adhere strictly to the Reformed tradition isn't very "folk". You could say Pentecostalism is derived, ultimately, primarily from the Reformed branch of Protestantism (which is to say, not Lutheran, Anglican, or Anabaptist) and is one way it can turn out when that branch goes "folk".

But two, Calvin himself described self-denial as "the sum of the Christian life." Everything about the Reformed ethos militates against excessive material comfort and conspicuous consumption.

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