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Bob Kadlecik's avatar

Ryan has written about the "nones" before and how a substantial number of them has dropped out of everything: School, work, church, etc. That seems to be the largest factor at work here. Government programs or family members have enabled this along with inexpensive sophisticated entertainment options (from drugs to games to videos) and the result is an increasingly large number of people who are not well socially, mentally, emotionally or financially. This does not describe all "nones" but an increasing number of them.

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Nice post thanks!

Going to church requires discipline, either self-discipline or communal discipline.

- People who go further in education, on average, have more self-discipline.

- People in denominations with communal discipline attend church the most regularly, even though they often lack education. The classic example is Jehovah's Witnesses.

I think that this is the one finding of Charles Murray's work that's really insightful. There's a class of people who can continue to thrive despite the lack of externally-imposed systems of meaning or social norms (i.e. without a culture). Then there's everyone else who can't. Church attendance is one metric for this, and there are many others.

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